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it is being described as the worst school shooting in american history a mass shooting inside of a connecticut school leaves at least twenty six people dead we'll have an update on the shooting just ahead. at colleges and universities across the u.s. you find a wide variety of student groups but should there be a whites only group one student in maryland is pushing that idea we'll speak to him in just a moment. and it's that time of the year again the hustle and bustle of the holiday season but has the u.s. become too politically correct when it comes to celebrating christmas we'll dive into that topic and take a look at the stress of the holidays. it's
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friday december fourteenth four pm in washington d.c. i'm meghan lopez and you're watching r.t. . all right well we begin tonight with the tragedy that has left americans across the nation speechless it's been called the worst smash school shooting in american history this morning around nine thirty am a gunman entered shady hook elementary school in newton connecticut and opened fire as we come on to there tonight there is some confusion over who the shooter actually is it is either ryan lanza as first reported or his brother adam police are still trying to sort out all of this information but it seems like this has been flooding the television screen since the chaos began as i said at least twenty six people are dead as many as twenty of those people were children and sixteen faculty members two handguns were found on the scene and law enforcement officials have said that the shooter is among the dead the details of this story are still
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being are still working at best but we can expect to hear more about this story in future days and weeks. so to talk about this more i'm joined by our chief correspondent liz wahl who grew up very close to today's shooting and she is here to bring us an inside perspective of what this community is like here there was so first of all well what's the latest that we're hearing from from what happened today well i'm as we are seeing i mean it's absolutely tragic story and a lot of information is getting mixed up we're hearing a lot of contradicting facts but there are things that we can that we do know we know that nearly thirty people have died in this mass shooting twenty seven is the latest number that i saw most of them are children and young children this was at an elementary school in newtown connecticut we know that the gunman is dead and we don't know whether the gunman shot himself or whether he was shot dead by authorities. we know that a the police have another person of interest in custody. and that's all we really
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know for sure i know that i just got off the phone with my mom she has friends whose children go to that very school just picked up the children there's a lot of information what they're hearing my mom says is that this is this this guy the gunmen worked at the school and he was fired this morning one of the victims was his mother who was a kindergarten teacher and shot opened fire on all the kids in the classroom and lives what we do know also is that you're from this community can you describe the community to me i mean is it quiet is it peaceful is something like this to be expected you have a lot of i don't know this is we're talking about a rural suburban town this is newtown connecticut a town of about twenty seven thousand people people moved here because they the schools are known for being very good not too long ago the high school there in newtown connecticut got some kind of prestigious award for being
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a school of excellence the schools in the area are known for being very good and. why families move there they go there because they think that this is a safe place to. to raise your children and. it's absolutely not a place where you hear about gang violence or gun violence or you never really hear about things like this and i mean and you always say that it's not going to happen to you it's not going to happen to your community and i would this is the last place that i would think. you would hear about one of the most heinous mass shootings in u.s. history is in this community it's really shocking and i know that you've been in contact with your family back home you just talked a little bit about that can you talk a little bit more about what you've been hearing from them what kind of news you personally have been getting from your family and friends well i think at first. when the news broke this morning it was just everybody was really confused
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everybody calling each other. and i know i have a niece and nephew in a nearby school district and everybody just kind of calling to make sure that everybody's ok. i don't think anybody was expecting that it would be of this magnitude. so i i think people are just shocked. don't really know what to make of this and also president obama just came out to speak about this a little bit earlier he said something needs to be needs to be done about this and a couple of other little pieces of information came out as well i mean should we expect something to be done and recent in the coming days and weeks. well i think one of the things that president obama did say. is that it's not the time to talk about. the politics behind this or. it's not even necessarily time as of today to talk about. to have
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a debate about guns i think that first off it's going to be taking care of these families taking care of the wounded and helping out these families and helping these families pick their pieces up you know pick their lives back up i think without a doubt we are already seeing across social social media that it's already erupting a debate about gun control. i think whether or not you are for guns or against guns i think this is going to reignite the debate and really cause people to take a look at the situation that we do have in this country i know that gun those in that are for gun control are going to say this is an example of the ease of being able to obtain weapons in this country those that are for having guns are going to say you know maybe if the principal or or security was on the school that had a gun they could have shot the gunman dead and save the lives of these children. it's definitely a really difficult. topic. so we're not going to find any answers today but i
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can say for sure that it's going to it's going to spark a very very heated debate about. about a gun control in the country we'll have to see how it plays out we know that the politicians have kind of set politics aside today and everybody's kind of coming around the vision community. this is obviously very close to your house i also had a personal experience too we've had i live a block away from columbine high school so my family and my community went through through that and then also we saw this aurora shooting how what steps are going to happen in the future to build this community up by the united spirits and seen what happened after columbine high school and the years and years and years that it's take for that community to heal what do you think the next steps are going to be for your community oh gosh i don't know i think it's going to. it's going to take a lot of counseling i mean i can even imagine being an elementary school shooting
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in elementary school just you know on your way just a normal day at school and and having this massive atrocity happen. i think it's going to take a long time for these wounds to heal i mean i don't know i don't have an answer is it's it's i don't know one thing we do know is that parents across the country and across the world are going to be holding their kids a little bit tighter tonight yeah and it's such a tragedy to happen right before the holiday season are to correspondent live well thank you for bringing us that update thank you. all right on to another topic now a recent u.s. census bureau report projected that the u.s. will become a majority minority nation for the first time in twenty forty three in other words the majority of the people living in this country will not be caucasian from there the gap is only expected to widen right now majority of minorities make up about thirty seven percent of the u.s. population or account for about one hundred sixteen point two million people by
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twenty sixty however the minority population is expected to become about fifty seven percent of the population or about two hundred forty one point three million people so we are beginning to see this shift in demographics a shift that has been a long time coming but one university student a maryland student isn't lamenting instead he has proposed a white student union at telus and university it's here in maryland it's an idea that has gained a lot of attention and even more criticism matthew heimbach is senior studying u.s. history and the founder and he's the founder and commander of the white student union he joins me now to explain why he wants to start this so this union so let's start off with how did you come up with this idea well i came up with the idea and the fact that you see in america that every single racial group has enough to see
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group we have the n.w. c.p. we have a pact we have you know groups for hispanics for asians for everybody so kind of the idea is that people come together on kind of tribal lines and they advocate for the best interests of their people and whites are the only group that doesn't have that so the idea that students when on college campuses were facing affirmative action which discriminates against white students you know not being able to get into the college or you know not be able to get proper scholarships based on how much work we've done it's you know a problem that we need to face and these demographic trends which are a shift. which are i think are bad for white students so we need to come together on racial lines as every other group has an advocate for the best interests of our people and so let's let's break this down into a few things first of all what will your union be doing in specific what what are you hoping to do what we're already doing is we're going to do it three different things first of all is education so we brought in speakers so far such as jared taylor to come and talk maybe of what is white identity so if i bring in speakers
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you know you're not going to hear those ideas in a cultural marxist classroom so bring that to this is the the campus community second of all is trying to be a positive force for campus kind of the idea of really have political parties like golden dawn which take care of greeks to you know greek people first cd of the white students that are were doing safety patrols on campus to try and look. for people that are perpetrating violent crimes but also doing blood drives things like that donating to the homeless so that's the second thing we're trying to do and the third is be a political force that attacking affirmative action on campus because it's discriminatory and also raising awareness about things like the fact we allow illegal immigrants now to get in-state tuition that you know that's money that's being taken from our university from legal us citizens and being spent on criminals so that's kind of the three things we're focusing on and your last quite answer you just said that you are interested in promoting interests describe what a white interest is what the white interest is simply the idea of the white race in
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general being able to protect our culture being a protect our country's being able to work in what is best for us the programs like affirmative action are bad unrestricted third world immigration in this country is bad for white interests you know free trade agreements like nafta which send our jobs overseas to third world countries like mexico that undercut our wages and put us out of work those are bad for white interests so culturally whites are under attack and it's only going to continue as we become less and less the population as we saw with barack obama's reelection that you know mitt romney got over. two percent of the white vote but that wasn't enough so as the demographic trends shift republicans are going to be unable to win an election and whites need to either come together and stand up and fight together or else we're going to lose everything so matthew what qualifies as a white person a white person would be i mean a caucasian someone from europe stretching all the way from that darien peninsula all the way to russia and who's going to be allowed in your group when everyone's going to lead a group that's actually the one thing that people understand it's not
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a whites only group it's people who are standing in advocating for white interests just as there is white members of the black student union on campus you know there's black and hispanic members and asian members and jewish members in our group that works for the best interest of hispanics so it's the idea that we're not limiting people from coming and it's an open door if you believe in white culture if you want to protect white culture in advance white interest and fight discrimination on campus you can join ok so if you would accept black people minority students hispanics anybody but in a recent interview you said with that with the big picture host tom hartman that you don't consider jewish people white and can you explain shore well i mean it's the idea if you look in terms of the jewish population that they're not white that they they have you know things like tay-sachs disease for instance where that is a disease that was only found within the jewish population so genetically i mean when i've been talking about the way someone looks but genetically there is a difference amongst the majority of the jewish population as a jewish race and the idea that we're questioning them as a separate people that's
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a relatively new thing in western civilization i mean talk to someone for two thousand years everyone knew that jews were a separate people but doesn't mean we're advocating discrimination against them it's just that they as a people are advocating for their best interests and because they are not white they might not be advocating for the best interests of white people so let me ask you this how have you personally been discriminated against as a white person one terms of skirmishing you can just look at higher in that i'm looking at you have specific i want a specific example well specifically first of all things you know in dealing with anti-war. language you know racial slurs being hurled on campus is the sort of thing where as a student if i were to use any slurs against minorities homosexuals jews then what would happen i would probably get suspended or possibly even expelled but you know black students on campus hispanic students are allowed to centrally say whatever they want and they can get away with it and that's an unfortunate sign of the times where being pro white or even just simply being proud of the way god made you if you're white is it seems like
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a sin but if you're in the other racial group then that's ok one of the things that you have said in the past few past interviews is that you know you really for this if the if there is a black student organization or hispanic students organization why not there be a white student organization and there is some substance to that but one of the things i do want to ask you is it does kind of seem like your organization takes things to another level and it's not necessarily promoting white unity it what it is promoting is kind of separate but equal can you can you talk about sure or i mean the very idea that we're facing that this isn't simply political problems we're facing we're facing in america the potential of losing this is our country i mean as pat buchanan talks about you can't take a first world country and fill it with third world people expect to remain a first world country so the very ground that our forefathers fought and died for we have now inherited that and whites need to be able to come together to fight this is slavery was founded on more than just white people it was founded on the
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backs of slaves and on the backs of native americans that made this land what it is and help us and americans come together and become americans so we are in a sense an essence a nation of immigrants so when you say things like you don't expand you don't want immigrants in your schools and whatnot i mean it kind of seems like contradictory to what to what your your group stands for well in terms of the looking at you know the great samal huntington wrote in his book who are we he talked about what is the foundation of america now we were immigrant. from europe and that's the thing we shared we shared blood we shared culture that there was something more that tied us together now you look at america and what is an american an american is this abstract idea that we're bound together by capitalism and we kind of salute the same flag and that's about it that there's no strong identity of what is an american there's no community anymore we're simply a multicultural hodgepodge you look at l.a. that's an example of what america was founded as it's nearly nearly one third world
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country in its own right so that's kind of a problem i think the wrong side of time but do you consider yourself to be a white nationalist i consider myself to be a southern nationalist because as i see that you know the southern people there was a war fought over the idea that we've always identified as being a separate people now that doesn't mean i mean ill will towards my brothers to the north it doesn't mean i have any ill will towards any racial group i simply want to be able to protect by culture and my people and events the best interest of them and very interesting discussion and i know you've taken a lot of flak for it but i we appreciate your time here today as matthew hemlock founder of the white student union. all right tis the season for christmas trees and menorahs overeating overspending and one more thing political correctness now most of us at one time or another have had that awkward moment where you don't know whether to wish someone a merry christmas or a happy hanukkah or just plain happy holidays we've seen the so-called war on christmas play out on fox news in other news stations and we've watched governor
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lincoln chafee of rhode island change the name of the annual christmas tree to the holiday tree now one rhode island lawmaker went so far as to call governor chafee governor greenwich but wait a minute isn't this the season about love and family and holiday cheer how the holidays become too politically correct for their own good well joining me now to discuss this is one of our favorite funny guys political comedian dean obeidallah as well as dr victoria taylor she's a psychologist at the american institute for cognitive therapy welcome to you both . all right so let's let's start off by at what asking what's going on here i mean it seems like when the winter coats go on the tough skin goes away. well there's a clear war on christmas going on atheists are ripping down christmas trees all over new york they're stealing baby jesus from the north from crayfish is selling on e bay it's unreal what's going on in new york i can't even walk five feet without a atheist tackling a christian it's so if there's nothing going on this is
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a game this is part of fox news is war on intelligence that's what this is about to make us feel like there's a really sure there's not you know with the idea of wishing someone happy holiday there's nothing wrong with that if i know someone's christian i say merry christmas and i'm not sure i say happy holidays because america is a melting pot we're multicultural nation and there are people of all different faiths so why should make someone feel like they're not the right seat by saying merry christmas and force them to be a christian that's their choice and dr victoria i want to ask next question to you what's the psychology behind this really i mean what is the mentality behind this happy holidays that be christmas happy hanukkah kind of mentality where political correctness is now kind of dominating the narrative in this country when what's really important is that people are validating whatever holiday people are celebrating i don't think it has a little crack in it no mind you are fellow human in the holiday season ok and but let me ask you this is
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a mentally healthy for people to have these types of high expectations for the holidays and have these types of. kind of chaos with the consumerism in and everything that comes along with the holiday season. well i think that a lot of people do struggle with the consumer and i think that people should really be filled with and happy during the sea then and i work with a lot of depravity and anxious and you don't know they're really you know that way so out. me in order to deal with those sort of situation and. i think in terms of consumer and them up with and going rate lately it is a lot harder to sort of celebrate the holidays used to be thousand rated in people to take to a budget and maybe create new tradition and dean let me ask you this has christmas become too overblown i mean can christmas drive you crazy. you know it's such
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a huge holiday is such a big thing i don't even think you have to be christian is celebrated in my case my mom's christian or dad's muslim my muslim cousins would come over and celebrate christmas together so i mean it's become for some people are going to hate this but for many it's not just about you know being christian name or it's about a very you bring people together so bringing goodwill peace people feeling good about themselves and family getting together and celebrating sort of the year it's almost like thanksgiving number two i know some people don't like that but i think on some level for many people in multicultural multi-religious homes that's what it's become and i do want to play one little sound bite that we have from fox news fox news of course has made a habit out of bringing up the war on christmas segments it's almost become a holiday tradition so here's bill o'reilly and his latest rant on the war on christmas. back of the book segments and i we continue our reporting on which american stores are using christmas in advertising this christmas season but of
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national controversy that's because the word christmas has been removed from the title christmas is a federal holiday it's not like you could just pretend it doesn't even have to try to take away the nativity scene and now you're going to take away red and green that's crazy couple of days ago a newsweek magazine declared that the war on christmas is over and traditional forces have won the magazine citing retail stores allowing employees to now say merry christmas to the shoppers a few years ago some corporations were big. now before i get your opinions on this day and dr i do have one other clip to show you this is the very next story that our riley read right after his one christmas rant and the commercial that followed it. that's not a rather a lot of reaction from bob beckel lauren graham on the raging culture war in america led american kelly on a u.s. marine incarcerated in mexico for absolutely no reason at all this is outrageous we're trying to get him released we'll be back in a moment. so
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happy holidays deemed as anything the same off to you. obviously you can't because it doesn't matter what stocks nose it does you know these are words just to make people watch the show but if it does he believe it or not bill o'reilly i don't know but it gets his audience and it's a conservative audience republican audience in gage because they want to hear about this issue and then they're not offended by happy holidays and sure they might want to hear merry christmas but almost and i don't make everyone happy i eat at the end of ramadan i only wished other muslims if you're christian it was people you know merry christmas or they're jewish they're happy hanukkah well that is just a hey have a great day whatever this is america this is the beauty of our nation were a melting pot some people wanted to be one see and i'm sorry that's not the case all right and dr victoria i want to ask this next question to you chris says become a really big business in the us i mean do you think that the economic aspects of it now outweigh the religiousness of it i mean could you even call christmas like the christmas and dust cereal complex i think like people need to
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think about. religion by religion and that we need to think about that question in my family i think it really depends on the people you're talking about and we can make you. so dr victoria what do you think the best solution is for somebody that's struggling to of whether to get somebody to give her a christmas gift or say happy holidays what's the best solution from your standpoint. you know definitely. people act people but. those people that you don't know just bits best to say nothing and then get the wrong thing maybe even let's not forget that christmas trees are a german pagan tradition right well you know the things they were mean historically but now they're fun things that we put decorations on and we sit around for two weeks and we throw them in the street you know at the end of the two weeks and say thanks for the memories you know it is what it is i still love what christmas
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represents you know the idea of family coming together it can be difficult it can be stressful i know that but when it boils down you know it really is a celebration of our family and being together in a time of the year that just makes people smile more and a little be a little bit happier i wish that christmas spirit could be all your flying clee. do you think that we've lost the meaning of the holiday season with the commercialism and the happy holidays and all this stuff do you think we've lost the old meaning. i don't i mean i think each person's their own to be quite honest i think some people it's still a really important day from a religious point of view so bring the birth of jesus christ for others it's just a family holiday for others it's just a day off from work frankly so i think for each their own but i think there's so many people who really new york city i live all different faiths they get into the christmas spirit doesn't matter their buddhists hindus they're muslims they're smiling more it's the christmas season roll happier and dr victoria my final question is what do you think gets into people's heads during this time of the year
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do you think people get christmas fever on holiday fever. a lot of people are actually get. are going to be with their family is a long time in the you really need to be more mindful and. when they are now reading. this idea that everyone is awestruck by and very. see a lot of. you something that vision is. really the key is definitely stressful trying to find the perfect gift for the perfect person the political comedian dean obeidallah dr victoria taylor psychologist at the american institute for cognitive therapy thank you both for joining us happy holidays to you all right capital account is up next on our team let's check in with lauren lister to see what's on today's agenda hey there lauren what you got for us today i make it first i have to say i like your conversation about christmas i have to say this year i feel
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a little bit like i'm in the campus a little overwhelming the christmas industrial complex as you put it i don't know how you feel but i just wanted to throw that out there today we are not talking about christmas or the holidays we are talking about the gift that the fed keeps giving more money printing i guess you could say not to get the way we see it but i guess a gift to some whether it is going over the fiscal cliff or whether it is spanish housing prices suffering a severe fall those are just a couple of the headlines that i saw today there is so much concern about the fall about gravity about prices going down but why isn't there the subsequent fear of prices going up should there be we'll talk to jim grant he is founder and publisher of grants interest rate observer studies all things interest rate related we'll ask him right thanks for that update that's coming up next on capital account with lauren lyster and that's going to do it for now for the news but for more on the stories we cover today go to youtube dot com america or check out our website r c
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